Bipolar... Example

**sup-rbeast** · April 24th, 2007, 01:21 PM

Well...I kinda like my "ol fleshly body" and that being the case I don't believe that everytime I get sick that I did something to deserve it. That is just assinine to say. I'm not a religious person, but I've been to church enough to know that folks translate things from the Bible to fit their needs. But, a literal translation of it has alot of fairy tale elements. Ya have to read between the lines to get any deep meaning. Really, after centuries of translation, (some forced translations which were deemed necessary by various kings and rulers to fit their individual agendas) it is foolish to think that words and meanings have not been altered...thus skewing any literal translation.

**R0cketer** · April 24th, 2007, 01:42 PM

PacMan, your view is very similar to those who think that 'sick people' shouldn't ever go to a doctor. That if they are good, God will heal them.

Yes if you are praying to God you can get peace. For example, when I was diagnosed with cancer, I was completely fine, don't think I ever cried or got down really. I had the inncer peace before I was diagnosed that I had cancer, the day I found out, I drove home. I would complete a week of chemotherapy and come on a Saturday and go play basketball on Tuesday in a church league. I prayed. I was strong and able to deal with it, but I was also young (and probably too stupid to realize I was pushing it). Just because someone got down or depressed doesn't mean that the devil was winning. Its human nature to be depressed and upset, you can't just always go 'woohoo go me, thank you God for allowing me cancer'. Yes God can give you some peace but things still bother you, and pain is still pain.

April 24th, 2007, 01:52 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PacMan, your view is very similar to those who think that 'sick people' shouldn't ever go to a doctor. That if they are good, God will heal them.

Yes if you are praying to God you can get peace. For example, when I was diagnosed with cancer, I was completely fine, don't think I ever cried or got down really. I had the inncer peace before I was diagnosed that I had cancer, the day I found out, I drove home. I would complete a week of chemotherapy and come on a Saturday and go play basketball on Tuesday in a church league. I prayed. I was strong and able to deal with it, but I was also young (and probably too stupid to realize I was pushing it). Just because someone got down or depressed doesn't mean that the devil was winning. Its human nature to be depressed and upset, you can't just always go 'woohoo go me, thank you God for allowing me cancer'. Yes God can give you some peace but things still bother you, and pain is still pain.

</div></div>
That is great I am glad that God gave you that peace. I never made a reference to when people get down or depressed that it was a bad thing... it happens to the best of us. I have went to the doctor plent of times... I never downed going to the doctor and yes pain is still pain whether phsically or mentally. Read my new post and you will see everything that was said.

April 24th, 2007, 01:55 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well...I kinda like my "ol fleshly body" and that being the case I don't believe that everytime I get sick that I did something to deserve it. That is just assinine to say. I'm not a religious person, but I've been to church enough to know that folks translate things from the Bible to fit their needs. But, a literal translation of it has alot of fairy tale elements. Ya have to read between the lines to get any deep meaning. Really, after centuries of translation, (some forced translations which were deemed necessary by various kings and rulers to fit their individual agendas) it is foolish to think that words and meanings have not been altered...thus skewing any literal translation. </div></div>

Well I like my body too.....You say you do not believe everytime you get sick that you did something to deserve it... I dont believe that either.. I am sick right now... but I did nothing.Yes some turn the scripture to fit them... but I do not agree about reading between the lines out of the Bible.. because it is very clear.The most important thing is that we follow Jesus.. and get you effective study guides and find out what God would have you to do.. that is who you will answer to.

**sup-rbeast** · April 24th, 2007, 02:20 PM

That is your belief...not necessiarily mine tho.

April 24th, 2007, 02:26 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is your belief...not necessiarily mine tho. </div></div>

Yes, that is my believe if yopu are talking about answering to God... yes I believe we all will. But you are right you do not have to believe that and I will not force you to believe neither will God.... but that does not mean it is no the truth.

**R0cketer** · April 24th, 2007, 02:37 PM

It won't matter Cane, just like before when he just 'typed something up out of his mind' and then someone posted where it came from , and he tried to make it seem like someone was a good detective.

The biggest reason why I 'pick at you' Pac-Man is for reasons I have given before. You push more people away from God than you will ever bring to God.

And I, in my belief, I should defend religion and Christianity against those who push others away.

April 24th, 2007, 02:43 PM

Well Rock that incident was blown out of poportion... with the detective thing.... yes you pick at me.. I do not mind though.I do not attempt to push anyone away. If you have read my new posts I know you have... I was accused wrongly and the evidence is there. I know you will not apologize but that is okay... I knew from the beginning I would be picked at.. I weighed the cost. I do not believe you push people away.. but you do defend what is wrong sometimes... that is just my opinion. But I HAVE HEARD THAT YOU REALLY ARE A GOOD GUY.. SO i OVERLOOK A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAY.

**R0cketer** · April 24th, 2007, 02:51 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pac-Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I was accused wrongly and the evidence is there. </div></div>

How so and where?

**sup-rbeast** · April 24th, 2007, 02:49 PM

Well, my belief is nowhere near yours anyways. I believe christian teaching, but I believe that God sent messengers to different places in order to offer his love to all people. I know..you are going to say JC was sent for that purpose. And, I believe that..but I also believe the ancient people in america has their messenger, the folks in the middle east outside of the Jewish terrirories had their messenger and all other civilizations had theirs. I believe that all religions worship the same God through different prophets. I believe that inner peace is how God and religion speaks not to you but through you. You can preach at me until you are blue in the face and u will not get me to believe in a physical devil or demons or angels for that matter. You can say I'm goin to hell and it won't bother me...because I DON'T BELIEVE AS YOU DO. I think it is arrogant to believe that God only chose to send a prophet IN PERSON to the Jews 2000 years ago. Furthermore, I believe that a religion based can not be based on uncoditional love when it has been spread through centuries of bloodshed and mass killing. Everyone on here can go nuts about what I believe...but it doesn't change my view...no more than yours will change because of me. So, that being said, we can debate for days, hours, even years on end and we will never come to a consensus concerning religion because we all have our own notions concerning religion.